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Mysterious new Hero Quest website

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22 Sep 2020 15:00 #314369 by ubarose
That's pretty fickin ridiculous shipping and taxes.

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22 Sep 2020 15:13 #314371 by southernman

southernman wrote:

ubarose wrote: It looks like Hasbro has set up their own Kickstarteresque pre-order for this.
https://hasbropulse.com/products/heroquest-game-system

It will go into production if they get a million dollars in pledges by November 6.

I've not seen them do this for other games/toys, have you?


That's a lot of nostalgic fans to capture, that's a lot of cash when you line it up against the competition that has 30 years of design advancement on their side (I played Space Crusade recently and while fun we all thought it was obviously dated). This really needed to arrive 10-15 years ago.


$435K pledged and 45 days to go - what the fuck do I know about nostalgia gamers world wide :ohmy: :whistle: :blush:
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22 Sep 2020 15:37 - 22 Sep 2020 15:38 #314374 by the_jake_1973
Look at all the people that pledged for Fireball Island. Nostalgia pays off.
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22 Sep 2020 17:10 #314394 by Michael Barnes
Had this announcement been “Coming to Target, $49.99 base, $24.99 expansions” I’d definitely be in for it. But a $200 crowdfunding drive run by a $4.5 billion corporation?

Fuuuuuuuuuuuck off.
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22 Sep 2020 17:18 #314395 by ubarose
@Michael

Just wait. You'll eventually able to find it at Target on clearance.
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22 Sep 2020 17:23 #314397 by Michael Barnes
Oh I’mma have my eye on those out of the way endcaps!

So sick of gamer nostalgia...unless the purchase price includes the 2-3 friends you played it with when you were 12 years old on the dining room table, then it does not actually include what you are really wanting out of this game.
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22 Sep 2020 17:30 #314399 by Sagrilarus

ubarose wrote: So now consumers are giving interest free loans to companies that net like 4 Billion dollars annually. Brilliant.


Halfway there, 45 days left. It appears no one cares.

I'm sure there's an H.L. Mencken quote that applies here.
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22 Sep 2020 17:44 #314403 by Jackwraith

Michael Barnes wrote: So sick of gamer nostalgia...unless the purchase price includes the 2-3 friends you played it with when you were 12 years old on the dining room table, then it does not actually include what you are really wanting out of this game.


Which is exactly what I've been saying for the past 20 years in response to most assertions that "X was the best game ever!!!" I'm betting that even legends like The Dark Tower are going to lose their shine pretty quickly once you realize that game design has advanced quite a bit in the last three decades. Stuff like Dune and Cosmic Encounter are pretty rare eggs. Most major releases by American toy companies (HeroQuest was originally a Milton Bradley, right?) were attempts to sell a pile of plastic, not produce great games.

Either that or I'm just too much of a curmudgeon to have nostalgia for much of anything.

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22 Sep 2020 20:41 #314412 by Sagrilarus
Is Hasbro doing it this way because they see it as the way to reach this crowd of gamers? I suppose I’d have to ask young people that question.

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23 Sep 2020 05:46 - 23 Sep 2020 05:50 #314426 by Galdred

Michael Barnes wrote: Had this announcement been “Coming to Target, $49.99 base, $24.99 expansions” I’d definitely be in for it. But a $200 crowdfunding drive run by a $4.5 billion corporation?

Fuuuuuuuuuuuck off.


Exactly, at this price point, the new Heroquest is the opposite of what the older one was to me:
For me, Heroquest was the gateway that made me go from the classic boardgames we had at this time, to role-playing games, miniature wargames, and nerds board games.
At this price point and availability, I don't see how it could serve as a gateway game.
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23 Sep 2020 08:53 #314429 by Ah_Pook
Given inflation, the original game would cost about $70 if it released at the same price now that it did back in the 80s. I think they should have tried hard to round that down to $50 rather than up to $100, but looking at how many people are buying in I guess I'm the idiot there.
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23 Sep 2020 09:44 #314431 by Cambyses

Sagrilarus wrote: Is Hasbro doing it this way because they see it as the way to reach this crowd of gamers? I suppose I’d have to ask young people that question.


If you mean 35-year-olds as young people, then yes, they are doing it to reach young people. But I would be willing to bet that almost no one under 30 has any memory of seeing HeroQuest on a shelf, and when dungeon crawlers with minis are a dime a dozen now—and come with thousands of cards and don't need someone to play the bad guys—they're not going to pay 200 bucks for something they aren't even nostalgic for.
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23 Sep 2020 10:22 #314434 by Shellhead
One of the hosts of the monthly hipster boardgaming group that I attended pre-plague picked up the original 1st edition Hero Quest for too much money at an auction at GenCon 2018. The first time that we played it, he accidentally spilled an expensive hipster beer on the board. So we now call it Beer Quest.
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23 Sep 2020 10:33 - 23 Sep 2020 10:43 #314436 by Sagrilarus

Cambyses wrote: If you mean 35-year-olds as young people . . .


Yes.

I'm just curious regarding "new" gamers (and I know a lot of them aren't young) that have seen Kickstarter have a huge influence in the hobby for their entire length of being part of it. Last winter I had a couple of relatively new gamers make statements that led me to believe they saw Kickstarter as situation normal for the industry. One was in a retail game store surrounded by 2500 titles, indicating to a friend that everything on the shelves had been kickstarted at some point, but were now in retail. The other asked me how many games I had purchased outside of Kickstarter and was very confused when I responded "all but two". So I think some portion of new gamers see pre-pub as just part of business-as-usual.

But this is Hasbro. They're printing a minimum of 100,000 copies of this thing (could have printed them already for all we know) so short of raising $10,000,000 in this Kickstarter they're going to be available in retail. It wouldn't surprise me if these are out before Christmas.
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23 Sep 2020 10:41 #314437 by jason10mm

Shellhead wrote: One of the hosts of the monthly hipster boardgaming group that I attended pre-plague picked up the original 1st edition Hero Quest for too much money at an auction at GenCon 2018. The first time that we played it, he accidentally spilled an expensive hipster beer on the board. So we now call it Beer Quest.


Hmmm, now you have me thinking about a dungeoncrawl where all the bad guys are shot glasses filled with various nasty drinks like jagermeister and goldschlager you have to drink if they defeat you. Last man standing (literally) is the winner!

I think I can sell it to nerdy frat houses :P
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