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There was also a report from someone who Crane inadvertently let into a Zoom call:
I was an early backer of Torchbearer 2nd at the $195 level, I signed into the 1st weekly backer Zoom call about 30 min early, already in the "room" was Luke and another writer on the project eating Chinese food and discussing tactics for the upcoming meeting. I listened in for about 10 min (while playing WoW on another monitor so I wasn't super attentive) before they noticed I was on the call and kicked me out. During that time I heard him say that he intend to conceal the fact that one of the physical rewards was going to be less than expected until the campaign was over (one of the sets of cards would be 1/2 sized mini-cards) and "our focus needs to be get that money, get that money, get that money", and not saying anything that would get someone to go "whine on Twitter". The whole tone of disdain for the backers broke the parasocial relationship that is the main reason I back things on Kickstarter and I dropped my pledge to the PDF only level the next day. I requested and received a refund when this debacle came to light.
Now I don’t know the person who reported that, but even if it’s exaggerated then it’s skeevy.
So that’s four red flags for me: inclusion of Koebel, weird apology, possible deception of backers around the rewards they pledged for, and my current surplus of dungeon crawling RPGs.
If it was only one of those flags, or even two, I could probably shrug and move on. I really like Crane’s design aesthetic and pretty much everything about his designs. But all four of them … it was just too much for me.
I’m not saying anyone else should arrive at the same conclusion and if others are fine with backing TB, then more power to them and I hope they have fun with the game.
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He didn't tell the other creators in the project (some big names like Vincent Baker and Sage Latorra who collaborated with Adam Koebel on Dungeon World), and he listed the creator names on the Kickstarter in reverse alphabetical order so that Koebel would be last.
Latorra dropped out of the project (along with many others) as soon as they found out.
I think what Koebel did was pretty wrong. If you watch the video and you look at some of the background of the woman, it's pretty abhorrent.
But then there's also this that recently came up:
jecreane.medium.com/words-that-have-been...o-years-f1f5780a7c92
A lot of maybe not enormous things on their own, but multiple issues. Luke has also always been kind of in your face and a bit cocky from my impression of forum interactions. I followed his work/contributions for years at the Forge and later the Burning Wheel HQ forums.
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Looked fun, but it had one of my issues with Kickstarters, which is the inclusion of “expansions” as part of the initial release. I think this is garbage design and garbage marketing, or (more charitably) a massive turnoff to me.
If your expansions are well-designed, then they should be part of the core experience. If they can’t be seamlessly integrated into the core experience, then release them later if the game is popular. I want a tight game out of the box, not some big sprawling thing that makes me choose what parts not to play, before I even get a feel for the game.
If your expansions aren’t well-designed, then, well, don’t release them.
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It’s still off putting to me though. These days I want a simple, core experience, not a ton of options I have to choose from out of the box. Save options for the expansion.
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I mean, I have no business purchasing this, because I don't care for train games very much. But I mean come on! How can you turn that down? She gets all visceral passion with the "devour" and the "dino industrialists" (you can picture the top hats) and then completely nerds out by throwing in "Western Interior Seaway". I almost want to buy it just to encourage the behavior.
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Gary Sax wrote: ymmv, I find ipads surprisingly useless for productivity tasks.
The real trick to talking yourself into a purchase is to go the Reddit iPad forums where the die hard fans are using them as laptop replacements, and extoll their virtues endlessly. I already have an 8th gen regular iPad, and in all honesty I am too lazy to learn all the new stuff you can do in the latest version of the operating system, like split screens and multitasking. I do find that it makes a really nice PDF annotation device, and having a little more screen real estate for that function seems like it would be nice. But that raises the very real question of
"Why don't I just develop a workflow for taking notes from articles that doesn't require a $675 electronic slab?"
My other justification is that my body in general has the resilience of an old, cracked rubber band that you find on the ground in late March, surrounded by cigarette butts and cough drop wrappers. Using my laptop as an actual laptop (as opposed to the current desktop arrangement) leads to neck pain after about four minutes.
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