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What MOVIE(s) have you been....seeing? watching?
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That makes sense. I remember chaos theory and fractals were big in popular science back then.DarthJoJo wrote: If I’m remembering the novel right, Malcolm was on the island because John Hammond thought chaos theory was cool. That’s it.
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McTiernan gets a pass for life after doing Predator, Die Hard, and Die Hard With a Vengeance.jason10mm wrote: But Chrighton wrote the book first, right? His earlier directorial efforts were pretty good. Maybe not Mctiernan good but then again mctiernan did "Medicine Man" so he isn't infallible
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DarthJoJo wrote: If I’m remembering the novel right, Malcolm was on the island because John Hammond thought chaos theory was cool. That’s it.
We watched this for the first time with the kids the other night. I forgot that Goldblum's complete explanation of Chaos Theory (the first time he was asked) was "nonlinear equations...stuff like that"
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I appreciate he's a pop-novel author, but his arrogance on the subjects was the stuff of legend. "I sold a million books, how can it be wrong?" The Duke of Gaslight in his day.
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You've got a better memory than I have. I read it when it came out, and I remember that we recreated dinosaurs, and it turns out they eat people.Sagrilarus wrote: I read the book before I saw the movie, and if I recall correctly each chapter led off with a snippet on chaos theory, each less relevant than the one that preceeded it. Crichton simply didn't apply any of it correctly, trying to equate genetic variation over time with regions of instability. (I was writing a paper on the chaotic orbit of Pluto at the time.) Chaos and complexity are not the same thing. Both start with C but that's where the similarities end.
I appreciate he's a pop-novel author, but his arrogance on the subjects was the stuff of legend. "I sold a million books, how can it be wrong?" The Duke of Gaslight in his day.
I do remember that Crichton exaggerated the size of a velociraptor just a tad.
ETA: I do remember that a lot of changes in dinosaur paleontology started appearing in popular science in the 80's and 90's. It turned out that some were warm-blooded, some had feathers, brontosauruses walked on land, etc. That also appeared in both the book and the movie.
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You've got a better memory than I have. I read it when it came out, and I remember that we recreated dinosaurs, and it turns out they eat people.Sagrilarus wrote: I read the book before I saw the movie, and if I recall correctly each chapter led off with a snippet on chaos theory, each less relevant than the one that preceeded it. Crichton simply didn't apply any of it correctly, trying to equate genetic variation over time with regions of instability. (I was writing a paper on the chaotic orbit of Pluto at the time.) Chaos and complexity are not the same thing. Both start with C but that's where the similarities end.
I appreciate he's a pop-novel author, but his arrogance on the subjects was the stuff of legend. "I sold a million books, how can it be wrong?" The Duke of Gaslight in his day.
I do remember that Crichton exaggerated the size of a velociraptor just a tad.
It's just not scary to be eaten by ducks.
Warm-blooded dinosaurs had been twigged out by the late 70s. I had a science teacher in elementary school tell me I was stupid for saying that. Another teacher that found a way to reach me, just not in the way he intended.
Crichton's biggest crime for me personally was the implied morality of his books. Predators like diseases and dinosaurs had an uncanny ability to kill only the people that showed hubris or other moral shortcomings. It's lazy storytelling that makes for non-gripping endings. But what do I know. He sold millions of books, so his writing must have been good.
Don't hear much about him or his books these days.
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Agree to disagree!Sagrilarus wrote: It's just not scary to be eaten by ducks.
Annoying shit I remember from Crichton works:
That's not how chaos theory works.
That's not how DNA works (twice!).
That's not UNIX.
That's not how gorillas communicate (even Koko).
That's not how Neanderthals work.
That's not how genetic research works.
Too bad Crichton never wrote a book about the Dunning-Kruger effect, because I would think he's a fucking expert.
Making a list of movies to watch with my kids. They haven't seen shit. Please recommend good movies that a family can watch, either in Parent, Parent, Teen, Teen mode or the more complicated Parent, Parent, Teen, Teen, Tween, Tween mode. Guideposts: Marvel/LOTR movies are too violent for the tween mode. Teen mode has not yet forgiven me for making them watch LABYRINTH.
Ideas so far:
Ghostbusters
The Sting
Close Encounters
This Is Spinal Tap
Best In Show
Amelie
Insterstellar
Inception
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McTiernan gets a pass for life after doing Predator, Die Hard, and Die Hard With a Vengeance.jason10mm wrote: But Chrighton wrote the book first, right? His earlier directorial efforts were pretty good. Maybe not Mctiernan good but then again mctiernan did "Medicine Man" so he isn't infallible
That pass could arguably be revoked for his execrable ROLLERBALL remake.
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Princess Bridejeb wrote: Ideas so far:
Ghostbusters
The Sting
Close Encounters
This Is Spinal Tap
Best In Show
Amelie
Insterstellar
Inception
The more cartoonish Jackie Chan films
Moulin Rouge
Strictly Ballroom
Stardust
Coraline
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I wouldn't put Spinal Tap on there, because I think you need the rock band/rockumentary background before you can appreciate a parody of it.jeb wrote: Making a list of movies to watch with my kids. They haven't seen shit. Please recommend good movies that a family can watch, either in Parent, Parent, Teen, Teen mode or the more complicated Parent, Parent, Teen, Teen, Tween, Tween mode. Guideposts: Marvel/LOTR movies are too violent for the tween mode. Teen mode has not yet forgiven me for making them watch LABYRINTH.
Ideas so far:
Ghostbusters
The Sting
Close Encounters
This Is Spinal Tap
Best In Show
Amelie
Insterstellar
Inception
Some for the lists:
Back to the Future (all three)
Jumanji (the new one) and Jumanji 2.
All the Harry Potter movies
Superman
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Inception (both cited this as their current top favourite. The suicide scene and some of the gunplay could be a little rough for Jeb's younger ones though)
Jumanji (the two modern ones)
Harry Potter series
BTTF series (although the first two films both have a couple of slightly pervy moments that were awkward to sit through)
Lego Movie (son still loves this, daughter not so much)
Mission Impossible series (daughters pick, son not so keen)
Interstellar (son's strong pick, daughter found it too long-winded)
Percy Jackson series (might be in their minds just because they are currently reading the books though)
Also a big shout out for Cheaper by the Dozen 2 which has been a strong family movie for us for a good few years - the first one is hindered by trying too hard to make a point and overshadowing the comedy with morality, the sequel is straight-up good fun with the ridiculous rivalry between the two dads, slapstick hi-jinks, and the nice happy love-thy-neighbour ending.
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Not to mention ATRAAAAYYYUUUUUUUUUUbutseriously I think this one falls in the LABYRINTH category. And that dog would fuck up the whole family for life.Andi Lennon wrote: Movie list for kids without The Neverending Story????? It's almost like you don't even want them traumatised for life by a drowning horse.
- BACK TO THE FUTURE might work. I remember the second one being gross? Anyone back* me up on this?
- Maybe WARGAMES would work?
- I tried watching REMO WILLIAMS again. Joel Grey instead of literally any Korean person kind of stands out though, yikes.
- They've seen some of the HARRY POTTER movies (teens all, tweens some). They are kind of bad though. Not like KRULL which was a towering cinematic achievement I remember fondly from my youth.
Thanks! I will try some of these out!
*in time
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